That was my question too, really. Given Trumplethinskin's flagrant disregard for the law, at least where it's not in his favour, who will stop them? ICE have shown no scruples about shooting innocent civilians, Trumplethinskin is a moron and I wouldn't be at all surprised if he incites civil war. I hope I'm being needlessly pessimistic, but I was much too optimistic in 2016 (present company excepted, my precise words were, “I don't think they're that stupid”, referring to the electorate). I was more forlornly hopeful than anything else in 2024, but I'd learned my lesson (again, present company excepted, at that time my precise words were “They've proved they are that stupid and, this time, I'm not going to say ‘I don't think they're stupid enough to do it again’! People like that hate admitting they were wrong, so they'll cut off their noses to spite their faces.”).
Having said all that, I have been heartened and encouraged by what I've seen, particularly in Minnesota. The solidarity of their communities, the way they've come together to support their neighbours, have remained disciplined under the most extreme provocation; that quite a few MAGAs are turning against him (even if, in most cases, it's an economically motivated decision), MTG's epiphany (and she was so awful, so vile, appallingly atrocious; the fact that I'm finding myself agreeing with her is causing me to question my sanity! On the other hand, I've long maintained that Trumplethinskin thrives on division and argued for forgiveness and finding common ground with anyone who regrets voting for him. I just never thought that would include MAGAs! My reasoning: that the Republicans' defeat must be so decisive and convincing that there can't be any doubt about voter fraud—never mind that it's a ‘fake narrative’, to paraphrase one of his favourite utterances: it's never been an issue on a scale large enough to swing an election¹), these are all very encouraging signs. However, Trumplethinskin and Kegbreath have shown they'll go to any lengths and they're so moronically imbecilic, not to mention narcissistically hubristic that I wouldn't put anything past them. That was another lesson I learnt pretty quickly: every time I thought Trumplethinskin had stooped to the limits of depravity, he did something worse. For Trumplethinskin depravity is a bottomless pit, it has no depths (except the as yet unplumbed ones). There is but one ray of hope and, ironically, it's his narcissism: he's still under the delusion that he can con-vince people that he's a great president, the greatest president ever and he does care about his image. Even someone as unbelievably dense as he is must realize that starting a civil war by ordering ICE to shoot on police is a step too far. Even he can't possibly believe he can blame that on Biden. On the other hand, yet another lesson, never underestimate the limits of his cretinous idiocy. Argh! He's actually managed to confuse me! The Trumplethinskin 1.0 adminstration wasn't entirely made up of sycophantic, deplorable incompetents and lunatics, but 2.0 is. And even with an ego the size of a planet and levels of hubris off the scale, he's getting desperate and worried. Let's say that I prefer to remain cautiously optimistic, it's 50/50. Bonne chance.
¹ Much as I'd like to believe certain reports that the election was stolen from Camilla Harris (and I certainly wouldn't put the kind of chicanery purported past the Republicans, much less Trumplethinskin), as suspiciously convenient as some of the figures from Florida are (if true), it's a dangerous road to travel. If it really was true it would give credence to Trumplethinskin's preposterous claims of a stolen election in 2020. It cuts both ways: you can't claim that voter fraud has never been significant enough, but it was this time. Mind you, Trumplethinskin has no evidence, the only explanation his reprobates could give in answer to “How?” is “Because that's exactly what we…er…suspected! Yes, that's it!: it's exactly what we suspected.” Bit of a giveaway, that.
Thanks for the comment. I meant to reply when I saw it, but got sidetracked.
Re: The voter fraud claims, mostly as reported by the "This Will Hold" folks: I find them pretty convincing. There are clearly some big issues with voting machines, especially now that a Republican operative has purchased Dominion, according to TWH. That said, to manipulate each one requires local effort in individual precincts. That's a lot. So my suggestion to people concerned about this is to take away the small margins and create an overwhelming Democratic victory, and sweep even normally Republican precincts.
Small voter fraud operations can't work in a massive win.
This regime is so twisted and evil and destructive that this is possible if people just get out there and vote.
Also in reference to the voting fraud, it's very possible Trump knew in advance there'd be Republican fraud, and created a false flag of alarm with his false claims, thus creating a sense among people that anyone who claims voting fraud is also lying or making stuff up. A pretty clever ploy if you ask me, maybe too clever for him, so it could be that his operatives thought, "Hey, since he's so thoroughly maligned the priniciple of voting fraud, let's commit voter fraud."
Charlie Thank You for spreading the truth for exposing Blanche for his & the rest of trumps regimes typical LIES & intimidation. Trump et.al. know they are losing and all they have to give you is lies because all trump did was sold out the ppl to make his wealthy boys club richer with our pay taxes - Trump WILL LOSE.
18 U.S. Code § 592 - Troops at polls you say. Looks pretty black and white. Lmao. Who’s going to enforce and prosecute that federal statute? tRump’s sweat wiper DOJ? That DOJ has no interest in prosecuting anything related to the tRump All Crime Organization. (Yet another TACO)
There's a plethora of enforcement options. You and I if we see them at our polling station can find a good, hungry civil rights attorney. Local DAs and AGs, especially in states like Illiniois and CA. Not even Georgia will tolerate ICE at polls. Many traditional Georgia conservatives don't like Trump any more than we do.
It's all a bluff anyway. They're trying to get people like you to say exactly what you just said.
I think you took that the wrong way. I should know better in the ether void of confused thought and text speak. It was meant to be commentary on the current administration and federal government policing themselves. I’m fully aware that any armed federal officers cannot be at a polling station. I’d love to see local law enforcement, DA’s, and AG’s go after the Feds if they were to try this type of stunt. But if it were to happen, it would probably be like a game of wack-a-mole. We have no idea where the armed federal officers would show up. Thankfully I’m in California where everyone has the ability to vote by mail and better yet, conveniently placed ballot drop boxes. The lines of voters at same day polling stations I’ve seen in the past few elections are much shorter than in decades past. Some polling stations open early, weeks in advance. My biggest concern is voter suppression in states (mostly southern) where polling stations are being reduced in numbers.
Comment areas areas are difficult for carefully considered conversation. For sure. Especially when I try to use a phone. Disaster ofren strikes!
California is safe. Illinois, too. The bigger concern is red states, where conservative AGs won't care, but these dummies won't send ICE to red states (if they try at all). They'll send them to swing states.
That's another challenge for them. They're dumber than bugs on the bottom of your shoes.
That was my question too, really. Given Trumplethinskin's flagrant disregard for the law, at least where it's not in his favour, who will stop them? ICE have shown no scruples about shooting innocent civilians, Trumplethinskin is a moron and I wouldn't be at all surprised if he incites civil war. I hope I'm being needlessly pessimistic, but I was much too optimistic in 2016 (present company excepted, my precise words were, “I don't think they're that stupid”, referring to the electorate). I was more forlornly hopeful than anything else in 2024, but I'd learned my lesson (again, present company excepted, at that time my precise words were “They've proved they are that stupid and, this time, I'm not going to say ‘I don't think they're stupid enough to do it again’! People like that hate admitting they were wrong, so they'll cut off their noses to spite their faces.”).
Having said all that, I have been heartened and encouraged by what I've seen, particularly in Minnesota. The solidarity of their communities, the way they've come together to support their neighbours, have remained disciplined under the most extreme provocation; that quite a few MAGAs are turning against him (even if, in most cases, it's an economically motivated decision), MTG's epiphany (and she was so awful, so vile, appallingly atrocious; the fact that I'm finding myself agreeing with her is causing me to question my sanity! On the other hand, I've long maintained that Trumplethinskin thrives on division and argued for forgiveness and finding common ground with anyone who regrets voting for him. I just never thought that would include MAGAs! My reasoning: that the Republicans' defeat must be so decisive and convincing that there can't be any doubt about voter fraud—never mind that it's a ‘fake narrative’, to paraphrase one of his favourite utterances: it's never been an issue on a scale large enough to swing an election¹), these are all very encouraging signs. However, Trumplethinskin and Kegbreath have shown they'll go to any lengths and they're so moronically imbecilic, not to mention narcissistically hubristic that I wouldn't put anything past them. That was another lesson I learnt pretty quickly: every time I thought Trumplethinskin had stooped to the limits of depravity, he did something worse. For Trumplethinskin depravity is a bottomless pit, it has no depths (except the as yet unplumbed ones). There is but one ray of hope and, ironically, it's his narcissism: he's still under the delusion that he can con-vince people that he's a great president, the greatest president ever and he does care about his image. Even someone as unbelievably dense as he is must realize that starting a civil war by ordering ICE to shoot on police is a step too far. Even he can't possibly believe he can blame that on Biden. On the other hand, yet another lesson, never underestimate the limits of his cretinous idiocy. Argh! He's actually managed to confuse me! The Trumplethinskin 1.0 adminstration wasn't entirely made up of sycophantic, deplorable incompetents and lunatics, but 2.0 is. And even with an ego the size of a planet and levels of hubris off the scale, he's getting desperate and worried. Let's say that I prefer to remain cautiously optimistic, it's 50/50. Bonne chance.
¹ Much as I'd like to believe certain reports that the election was stolen from Camilla Harris (and I certainly wouldn't put the kind of chicanery purported past the Republicans, much less Trumplethinskin), as suspiciously convenient as some of the figures from Florida are (if true), it's a dangerous road to travel. If it really was true it would give credence to Trumplethinskin's preposterous claims of a stolen election in 2020. It cuts both ways: you can't claim that voter fraud has never been significant enough, but it was this time. Mind you, Trumplethinskin has no evidence, the only explanation his reprobates could give in answer to “How?” is “Because that's exactly what we…er…suspected! Yes, that's it!: it's exactly what we suspected.” Bit of a giveaway, that.
Thanks for the comment. I meant to reply when I saw it, but got sidetracked.
Re: The voter fraud claims, mostly as reported by the "This Will Hold" folks: I find them pretty convincing. There are clearly some big issues with voting machines, especially now that a Republican operative has purchased Dominion, according to TWH. That said, to manipulate each one requires local effort in individual precincts. That's a lot. So my suggestion to people concerned about this is to take away the small margins and create an overwhelming Democratic victory, and sweep even normally Republican precincts.
Small voter fraud operations can't work in a massive win.
This regime is so twisted and evil and destructive that this is possible if people just get out there and vote.
Also in reference to the voting fraud, it's very possible Trump knew in advance there'd be Republican fraud, and created a false flag of alarm with his false claims, thus creating a sense among people that anyone who claims voting fraud is also lying or making stuff up. A pretty clever ploy if you ask me, maybe too clever for him, so it could be that his operatives thought, "Hey, since he's so thoroughly maligned the priniciple of voting fraud, let's commit voter fraud."
Charlie Thank You for spreading the truth for exposing Blanche for his & the rest of trumps regimes typical LIES & intimidation. Trump et.al. know they are losing and all they have to give you is lies because all trump did was sold out the ppl to make his wealthy boys club richer with our pay taxes - Trump WILL LOSE.
Thank you for commenting and reading. I meant to reply earlier, but got sidetracked. :-)
18 U.S. Code § 592 - Troops at polls you say. Looks pretty black and white. Lmao. Who’s going to enforce and prosecute that federal statute? tRump’s sweat wiper DOJ? That DOJ has no interest in prosecuting anything related to the tRump All Crime Organization. (Yet another TACO)
Not just troops. Any armed federal officers.
There's a plethora of enforcement options. You and I if we see them at our polling station can find a good, hungry civil rights attorney. Local DAs and AGs, especially in states like Illiniois and CA. Not even Georgia will tolerate ICE at polls. Many traditional Georgia conservatives don't like Trump any more than we do.
It's all a bluff anyway. They're trying to get people like you to say exactly what you just said.
I think you took that the wrong way. I should know better in the ether void of confused thought and text speak. It was meant to be commentary on the current administration and federal government policing themselves. I’m fully aware that any armed federal officers cannot be at a polling station. I’d love to see local law enforcement, DA’s, and AG’s go after the Feds if they were to try this type of stunt. But if it were to happen, it would probably be like a game of wack-a-mole. We have no idea where the armed federal officers would show up. Thankfully I’m in California where everyone has the ability to vote by mail and better yet, conveniently placed ballot drop boxes. The lines of voters at same day polling stations I’ve seen in the past few elections are much shorter than in decades past. Some polling stations open early, weeks in advance. My biggest concern is voter suppression in states (mostly southern) where polling stations are being reduced in numbers.
Comment areas areas are difficult for carefully considered conversation. For sure. Especially when I try to use a phone. Disaster ofren strikes!
California is safe. Illinois, too. The bigger concern is red states, where conservative AGs won't care, but these dummies won't send ICE to red states (if they try at all). They'll send them to swing states.
That's another challenge for them. They're dumber than bugs on the bottom of your shoes.